Matheson’s Re-Election Is On the Rocks
Jason Kane is a recovering rock star and an attorney in Salt Lake County. He is an occasional contributor to Publius Online.
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Mayor Mia Love of Saratoga Springs secured the Republican nomination for Congress by a resounding margin at Saturday’s convention, garnering a whopping 70% of the vote from the GOP delegates of Utah’s 4th Congressional District. The excitement and energy Love brought was palpable in the convention center. Mia Love is clearly entering the race for Congress with the wind at her back, something that cannot be said for her Democrat opponent.

Incumbent Jim Matheson’s future as a congressman is now in jeopardy, threatening to dislodge Utah Democrats’ last foothold in the state’s federal delegation. Polling data from the Salt Lake Tribune, reported prior to the convention, showed Jim Matheson slightly ahead of his Republican contenders, but within a margin of error of most of them. Matheson responded to the poll by noting that he hasn’t even begun campaigning, yet. Of course, that also means Jim’s opponent has yet to begin campaigning against him.
Many Democrats I have spoken with have been dismissive of the possibility that Matheson will be unseated by his Republican rival, apparently taking comfort in the soothing notion of the incumbency advantage. What they fail to acknowledge is that the ground has literally shifted under Matheson’s feet with the redistricting in 2011. The new 4tg Congressional District has little overlap with Matheson’s familiar stomping grounds in the former 2nd Congressional District, and the Democratic strongholds in Salt Lake City are a mere fraction of what they were in his old territory.
Fact of the matter is, Jim Matheson is a weak candidate in the new 4th Congressional District. Matheson has spent his days in Congress carefully straddling every issue, never taking a strong stand, so as not to upset either Party’s base back home too much. Mia Love, on the other hand, brings a youthful energy and excitement for conservative principles, which Jim is simply not equipped to contend with. Now that she has bypassed a primary, Love will have the rest of the year to spend going after Matheson and persuading the voters of the new 4th congressional district.
Prediction: Mia Love routs Matheson in November.
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Romney’s Mormonism or Romney’s Religiousness?
If you’ve been paying attention even the slightest, you probably know that Mitt Romney is Mormon. On the other hand, you’d be hard pressed to remember if you had heard him talk about it much, if at all, even if you were a close watcher of the GOP race for the nomination.
Why is that?
In 1960, John Kennedy and Richard Nixon competed for the White House. In something of a “flash of lightning which illuminated, but only momentarily, a darkened landscape,” as Robert Putnam says his book “American Grace,” we caught a look at how Americans view religion, especially as it relates to who we select for our President.
In 1960, presidential candidate John F. Kennedy had to reassure Protestants that they could safely vote for a Catholic. (At the time 30 percent of Americans freely told pollsters that they would not vote for a Catholic as president.) At the same time, Kennedy won overwhelming support from his fellow Catholics, even though he explicitly disagreed with his church on a number of public issues. In 2004, America had another Catholic presidential candidate—also a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, also a highly decorated veteran, and also with the initials JFK. Like Kennedy, John (Forbes) Kerry also publicly disagreed with his church on at least one prominent issue—in this case, abortion. But unlike Kennedy, Kerry split the Catholic vote with his Republican opponent, and lost handily among Catholics who frequently attend church. Kennedy would likely have found it inexplicable that Kerry not only lost to a Protestant, but in George W. Bush, an evangelical Protestant at that. Writing about the religious tensions manifested in the 1960 campaign, political scientist Philip Converse described the election as a “flash of lightning which illuminated, but only momentarily, a darkened landscape.” Kerry’s candidacy was another flash of lightning, but the landscape it revealed had changed significantly. In 1960, religion’s role in politics was mostly a matter of something akin to tribal loyalty—Catholics and Protestants each supported their own. In order to win, Kennedy had to shatter the stained glass ceiling that had kept Catholics out of national elective office in a Protestant-majority nation. By the 2000s, how religious a person is had become more important as a political dividing line than which denomination he or she belonged to. Church-attending evangelicals and Catholics (and other religious groups too) have found common political cause. Voters who are not religious have also found common cause with one another, but on the opposite end of the political spectrum.
Something, says Putnam, has changed (and he’s devoted 688 pages and one of the most thorough sociological studies in decades to understanding it).
But has it changed enough for Romney? By all accounts, including his own, Romney has been a faithful Mormon (more correctly, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but, since that’s a mouthful, a Mormon) his entire life, serving as a member of its lay clergy (almost every active member participates in some way), as a proselytizing missionary in his late teens and early twenties to France on his own dime (also pretty typical for about 50 to 60 thousand Mormon young men and women in any given year), paying ten percent of his income to the LDS church as “tithing,” and continuing to be an active member to this day. Further, he doesn’t drink coffee or tea, swears infrequently enough that just the rumor of his dropping the f-bomb during the Winter Olympics in 2002 received media attention, and has raised, with his wife Ann, five boys, far above the national average family size, but not atypical for Mormons.
Yet, you won’t hear him mention that it is his LDS faith that has informed these decisions and driven many of his life choices. Where Kennedy chose to make a major speech to calm Protestant fears of a Catholic presidency, Romney has this campaign stayed largely away from the topic, as least directly.
Not that it doesn’t come up. Quite the contrary.
Yesterday, when confronted with a passage in the Book of Mormon (which the LDS faith holds as scripture alongside the Bible), he declined to discuss his faith, at least not directly.
“I’m sorry, we’re just not going to have a discussion about religion in my view, but if you have a question I’ll be happy to answer your question,” Romney said Monday.
That wasn’t enough for the Washington Post, though. Why wouldn’t Romney discuss the doctrine? It’s not really relevant, seemed to be the response, but then Romney plowed ahead with something that can only be compared to the golden rule.
“Most Americans, by the way, are carrying a burden of some kind. We don’t see it. We see someone on the street, they smile and say hello, but behind them they’re carrying kind of a bag of rocks,” Romney said. “I want to help people. I want to lighten that burden.”
If Protestants afraid of what a Mormon presidency means, perhaps little encapsulates Romney’s philosophy better than this summation of the golden rule. One might just as easily ask “Who is my neighbor?” The response would be the same.
Ironically, this isn’t how the headlines formed. Instead of “Romney touts the Golden Rule” or “Romney wants to lighten burdens,” we hear “Romney visits Howard, faces tough question on Mormon faith” or “Romney pressed on Mormonism, race at Wisconsin campaign event.”
If we’re seeing another bolt of lightning illuminating a darkened landscape, we might not be pleased with what it shows. Rather than revealing a candidate who is, very sincerely, devoted to a faith that professes to follow Jesus Christ, we see a media that is fixated with the critical and controversial. If voters in 1960 were concerned about the election of a Catholic to lead a predominantly Protestant country, 2012′s media predicts voters who are concerned about a Mormon candidate to lead a nation that is predominantly…what?
That’s the something that has changed. While Romney advisers were, as has been reported, more afraid of Protestants in Iowa than of a surging Rick Santorum, perhaps the fear now is of the non-religious more than Protestants. As Putnam seems to argue, political lines in America are less and less drawn along the tribal lines of religious affiliation, and more often by the concomitant beliefs that the religious of all Christian faiths have in common: chastity before marriage, the traditional family, choice of media, and so on. (See Putnam’s book for more on this).
Romney is, by all accounts, very much on the religious side of that line. It is not Protestants that the media turns against him, but those who lack faith or don’t practice. When, and if, Romney is elected this fall, the battle will not come down to whether America is ready for a Mormon President, but rather if America still wants a President who is religious.
[Simon and Schuster] [Washington Post] [New York Times] [Green Bay Press Gazette] [The Hill]
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If gray hairs say anything about Hatch’s support…
…then tonight was his night, at least in my precinct. At triple the turn out from two years ago, our caucus was hot, full, and gray. Gray haired, that is. Of the thirty-seven people who showed, over twenty were well into their Social Security years.
Not too surprisingly, they came supporting Senator Hatch. Within a few seconds of the opening of nominations for state delegate, Gentleman X (who I know from church) stood to nominate Gentleman Y (also, from church and not a year younger than 70, either of them). I looked over at the nominee–Gentleman Y–and there in his hand is a stack of mailers featuring Orrin’s stately image.
Speeches began, and Gentleman Y laid out his support for Orrin Hatch. He spoke for a good three minutes longer than we let anyone else, mostly because after him we put the kibosh on long speeches, but also, because once questions began, it became more of a free-flowing debate. The questions ranged from the benign ”Who do you support for Senator/Governor?” to the more aggressive “Would you still support Senator Hatch if you knew he co-sponsored the individual mandate with Senator Kennedy?”
Why did he do well? A few simple reasons seemed clear:
- No one, even the solid Hatch supporters, could unequivocally support him, and that included the gray-haired Gentleman Y who held forth on Hatch’s behalf. “Better then devil you know than the devil you don’t know,” was their theme, and they don’t know who would replace him.
- The seniority argument got a lot of play, as did Hatch’s potential seat as chair of the finance committee if Republicans take the Senate.
- Mitt Romney’s endorsement made huge strides when in doubt. A quick straw poll of the precinct showed overwhelming support for Romney’s candidacy.
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Predictions for Tonight?
What’s your prediction for your caucus meeting tonight? Are you running for county or state delegate? Caucus leadership?
Do you expect a high turnout? Will high turnout benefit candidates? Will naysayers change their minds about the caucus system if turnout is high?
Do you think that Senator Hatch or his challengers will be able to stack the caucus?
Do you think it’ll be like 2010? or something entirely different?
What do you think will happen?
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Are Candidates Subverting Caucus Night?
If you’ve ever been a state delegate, or might again be a state delegate, you’ve been flooded in recent days by a veritable forest worth of glossy mailers.
It must be getting close to Utah‘s caucus night. From the number of mailers arriving each day, you would think that the election was next week, instead of in the latter half of April. In fact, it’s only the selection of delegates that is this week, and there are those out here that question whether trying to stack the caucuses so much is really very good for our system.
Enter pundit Ethan Millard. He level’s his pen at a certain candidate for Attorney General and fires away:
Swallow is trying to get his supporters to become delegates pre-committed to him. Under this tactic, the legitimacy of an election is compromised from the beginning, with delegates never intending to represent their neighborhoods.
Swallow’s not the only one trying to stack the caucus meetings to elect a delegates who will represent him. Millard pegs Ben McAdams, Ross Romero, Carl Wimmer, and Dan Liljenquist, too. Ironically, he left out Senator Orrin Hatch whose campaign manager Dave Hansen told The Hill that the Hatch campaign has been focused on the caucuses for a year and a half.
“We’ve been at this campaign for a year and our focus has been on the caucuses,” said Hatch campaign manager Dave Hansen. “We take them very seriously. Are we focused on them? Absolutely.”
Is it easy? No. But that doesn’t stop a cool hand like Hansen’s.
“In effect what you’re doing is putting together 1,820 individual campaigns all occurring on the same night, which is a massive task, to be honest with you,” Hansen said.
Brigham Young University Professor Adam Brown said both sides are well-organized but Hatch’s forces likely have the edge.
“Both Hatch and Freedomworks have sent me a pile of mail. If organization means mailing things out, then they’re both strong,” he said. “I’ve had several mailers from Hatch inviting me to those meetings to train to be a delegate. I haven’t seen anything like that from Freedomworks.”
So the candidates are trying to control who gets elected delegates. So what? That’s called free speech, right?
It is. But that still doesn’t stop people from complaining about Super PACs that spend money unseat incumbents. And if it’s wrong for Super PACs to spend money in Utah, is it wrong for candidates to try to control the neighborhood caucus in neighborhoods they don’t live in?
Back to Millard’s argument:
This is a deliberate subversion of the caucus process as politicians stack the conventions with delegates committed to them, not committed to representing their neighborhoods.
These actions delegitimize the caucus and convention as a system to elect our representatives.
You decide.
On that note, let me show you what’s been going out this week. First, “the nice” stuff, or mailers that I think help politics in Utah more than hurt.

This piece from Liljenquist's own campaign is a rarity in this election. It lays out his background (education at BYU and University of Chicago law school, career at Bain and as an entrepreneur, election to Utah Senate, etc) and his policy positions.

Another benign and useful piece was this one from Orrin Hatch a couple weeks back. Clear, to the point, and an important message: If Republicans take the Senate, Hatch will head the Finance Committee. It also carried Mitt Romney's endorsement, a potentially persuasive piece in a state where Romney is clearly the favorite for President.

The front side of the Orrin Hatch "finance committee" piece. The only faux pas on this piece was the timing. It hit mailboxes the same day that Olympia Snowe retired, softening the argument because conservative Senator Crapo of Idaho stands behind Orrin in line for head of the finance committee.
And then things start to go awry. If this were just an intraparty battle limited to Utah, it might be one thing. But this year, heavy spending out of state PACs have gone to bat for both Orrin Hatch and his competitors. My previous analysis has found that those going to bat for Senator Hatch have been fast and loose with the facts (see here). On the other hand, Freedom Works has spent heavily to talk about Orrin Hatch’s 36 year record in the Senate. Whether you like his record or not, it is what it is, and Freedom Works’ mailers have been far heavier on facts, if less rhetorical than the shadowy Freedom Path.
The mailers:

As I noted before, Hatch's "Finance Chair" mailer was poorly timed when Senator Snowe announced her retirement. And Freedom Works jumped on that.

This mailer pounds points that have been constant in Freedom Works' mailers: raising the debt ceiling, co-sponsoring an individual mandate, etc.

This mailer essentially says that Senator Hatch says one thing at home and another when in D.C. That might be a stretch...

...but if it is a stretch, it makes a reasoned argument for questioning his real intent. It's hard for Hatch to run from his 36 year record, and I think he's done a good job of framing the debate where it benefits him best. Voters could easily look at both sides and find reason to support keeping, or replacing, Utah's senior senator.

Freedom Works dropped the hammer on the $7.5 trillion with this piece, waving the national debt (it's at 100% of GDP, by the way) in voters faces.

Inside Freedom Works' "debt" mailer, we see simply the amount the national debt increased in each vote by Orrin Hatch. It should be noted that a number of these bills were signed by Ronald Reagan.

Meanwhile, Freedom Path (which I love to hate for how little transparency there is into who they are and where their facts come from) sent out this piece on Liljenquist. It looks dark and dangerous, but if you get past the image, the facts are relatively innocuous. Or just plain wrong. As I've indicated in past posts, Liljenquist did not just allow double-dipping to continue, he saved the state hundreds of millions by reforming it and pensions.

On the facts, Liljenquist did miss votes, but not an abnormal amount for how much legislation he was carrying. On double-dipping, it's actually Liljenquist's own bill that limited the practice. Last, Liljenquist voted, along with nearly the entire Utah legislature, to change Utah's GRAMA law, as well as did the Governor. Is this an attack on them, too?

Worst. Comparison. EVER. Whether you like Hatch or not, comparing him to Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama is a stretch. Next we'll see Hitler and Stalin, too. Or maybe Darth Vader, or Voldemort.

And the backside. Does the comparison hold up? I'm dubious. 36 years in Washington means a lot of votes and a lot of policies. It's hard to believe all of that boils down to one theme.

Not only is it obnoxious, it's misleading. The facts are stretched (like the gum--ha!), not to mention distorted. and it does little service to our state or to informing voters. I would say this is just short of dishonest.

Also, obnoxious, if for a different reason. If you're on the Hatch campaign and reading this, don't send me a mailer that's so big. I don't need a wall portrait of Romney, or Hatch. (The penny is next to Romney's head for scale).

This piece, I think, might be one of the more effective pieces yet, and I'm surprised Freedom Works hasn't done more. It reminds voters of what they can do with a positive message.

Finally, this: a reminder from the Hatch campaign to attend caucus, support Senator Hatch to put him on the Finance committee, lowering taxes, balancing the budget, and so on.
Does this distort and corrupt our caucuses? That’s for you to decide. Whatever you believe, I encourage you to show up, ask questions of the people who want to represent your vote, and demand that they represent you, not the candidate. This is representation of our interests, not the candidates. Whether it’s perpetual candidates like John Swallow or esteemed Senators like Orrin Hatch, it’s ultimately about how what they are and what they vote will affect our families.
Show up, ask questions, and make a good choice. It only works if you do.
(Personally, I think the sheer number of mailers is because the guys over at Freedom Path saw my post debunking their “facts” and decided that they would hit me with so many I didn’t have time to debunk them again…but I could be a little walleyed about that).
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Utah’s March 15 Caucus: To go, or not to go…
Today, with the Utah caucus finally within site (it’s on Thursday at 7 PM if you’re Republican, Tuesday if you’re a Democrat…find out where to attend here), many are still questioning whether we should even have a caucus.
Why not just hold a primary? Why do we have to sit in a room with our neighbors and elect someone else to be our delegate? Wouldn’t it be easier to just hold a primary?
It’s relevant. If there’s one thing that matters in a liberal democracy (or republic or constitutional republic or whatever the heck you want to label the American governmental system), it’s how we select our leaders. It moves from relevant to important, though, when we see how many people don’t participate. Today’s Deseret News carried the story:
The majority of Utah voters, 60 percent, have never attended a political caucus meeting and half said they will not this year either, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.
The poll by Dan Jones & Associates also found that 65 percent of Utah voters didn’t know what days the caucus meetings were scheduled — and even more, 72 percent, didn’t know where the meetings were being held.
Let me say, again: if you don’t know where to attend your caucus, click here.
Beyond statistics, I’ve spoken with several people in the last week who have turned to me and said: “Why do we do this? Why does Utah hold caucuses?”
Caucuses have a host of arguments both for and against them. In Utah, the caucus is the primary method that we select our candidates for public office. Delegates, at both state and county level, are selected to attend a either a state or county convention where they will vote on the candidates. They are expected to learn about those candidates in the weeks between caucus and convention so that they can make an informed decision. Most take this responsibility seriously. Some do not.
One of the great benefits of the system is that it brings politicians close to the people they represent. Because of the relatively low cost to earn a party nomination, you don’t need big bucks to run an expensive TV and print media campaign in a primary. Almost anyone can afford to meet the delegates of a legislative or school board district.
Just ask Orrin Hatch. In 1976, he ran a dark horse campaign on a relative shoe string, beat out well-known politicians for the Republican nomination, and talked voters into calling home 18-year incumbent Frank Moss. Senator Hatch has gone on to a distinguished career of 36 years as Utah’s senator…all because Utah’s caucus system allowed an underdog the same chance as a well entrenched politician with deep pockets. (I won’t mention the irony of the campaign to remove him with that history). Delegates meet the candidate, face-to-face, and make an informed decision.
Criticisms include complaints that caucuses are not well attended. With sixty percent of Utah voters having never attended one, that’s alarming. Voting in a primary is far easier and faster and have a higher rate of participation.
Which ever you think is the best method to select nominees for the ballot, right now the only way to change it is the caucus. And you might find you enjoy it. My mother attended her first caucus in Washington State just over a week ago. Her experience discussing the issues and the candidates invigorated her interest in our system and in our country.
And should I be surprised? Engagement has that effect. It’s going to the soup kitchen will warm your heart a lot more than clicking “Like” on a Kony video. When you show up, you become a part of the change, and the change becomes a part of you.
Again, March 15 at 7 PM. Look up your location, get a babysitter for the kids, and go find out how it works. You can complain about the process, but until you show up, you can’t really do much about it.
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In lieu of a daily post…
I’ve been asked to be on some kind of Deseret News live panel blogging about the election results tonight. Please join me there as we watch the primary results come in from Arizona and Michigan. Click on the image below to find the panel. Coverage starts at 5:30 PM.
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Freedom Path “Two Scoops…” Mailer Misses the Truth on Double-Dipping
Recently, I started to get glossy mailers lambasting Chris Herrod and Dan Liljenquist, the two candidates who are challenging Senator Orrin Hatch for one of Utah’s seats in the US Senate.
I was not surprised. It’s not even an open secret that Orrin Hatch has been for the last two years preparing for a frontal assault on his renomination, and wisely so. Despite that we are still a month away from the selection of state delegates for the Utah Republican Convention on March 15, I expected that Senator Hatch (and any PAC supporting him) would be actively campaigning to fill caucuses with his supporters and to control the message about Hatch’s and his opponents’ records.
What surprised me was the message in the mailers.
I’ve listened to stump speeches from Hatch, Liljenquist, and Herrod, and I’ve been more than soaked with their messages. Hatch is a diplomatic, conservative fighter, sponsor of the Balanced Budget Amendment (as well as

an amendment to outlaw flag burning). Herrod is, also, very conservative, a co-founder of the Patrick Henry Caucus, and very interested in immigration reform. Liljenquist, also a conservative, has focused his political career on entitlement reform (and for full disclosure and a plug, I’ve posted on some of his reforms elsewhere on the blog).
All three have labeled themselves under the conservative brand, broadly speaking (to what extent they each are conservatives is another topic not the subject of this post). Orrin Hatch, however, happens to be the incumbent. Which brings us all up to speed and provides a premise for me to explain my surprise at the subject of the glossy mailers.
Mailer 1: “Two Scoops Are Better Than One…”
In tone, the “Two Scoops” mailer tries to show that Herrod and Liljenquist are the type of politicians that are double dipping from public coffers. An ice cream cone shows flecks of dollar signs sprinkled through-out, with another scoop poised above (see the nearby pic).
Inside, large font declares that “Dan Liljenquist & Chris Herrod Support Double-Dipping at Taxpayers’ Expense.” This immediately struck me as odd, since I could remember Liljenquist, a former state senator, specifically talking about how he had introduced a bill to stop double-dipping by state employees.
So which was it? Did Liljenquist and Herrod actually support double-dipping, as the Hatch supporting PAC Freedom Path was arguing, or did Liljenquist fight double-dipping, as he says in his stump speech?
The “Two Scoops” mailer lists as its source an article by Lisa Riley Roche, “State retirement bills pass House committee,” and published in the Deseret Morning News on February, 25, 2010. I pulled it up, and then pulled out the ”Two Scoops” mailer to see if the claims held up. In order to make sure the “Two Scoops” mailer was not only correct, but stating the facts in context, I pulled up the bill itself. You can find it here.
The mailer goes on to make the following claims:
- “Double-dipping is a sweet deal for state workers, allowing them to collect a pension on top of the paychecks.” This is, as a statement, TRUE. In fact, according to news reports, it was a problem before the 2010 session during which Liljenquist ran the bill in question. The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board called for the state legislature to end the practice by law.
It’s called double dipping. The law allows schoolteachers and other public employees to retire and take pension benefits from the state retirement system, then go back to work full time — often in a similar job — and receive large 401(k) contributions from their employer while continuing to earn a salary and take pension benefits.[...]
Unfortunately, the state retirement system can’t afford it. If the Legislature doesn’t change the rules, double dipping could cost the retirement system $900 million over the next decade. The Utah pension system is already underfunded by about $6.5 billion due to the hit it took when the stock market crashed. That’s why the Legislature must put an end to double dipping.
[italics are mine]
- “Double-dipping could cost the state nearly $900 million over a decade — more wasteful government spending.” Again, this appears to be a true statement. Robert Gehrke reported that “[a]n audit of the retirement system finished late last year showed the double-dipping would cost the state $897 million in the coming decade.” However, this is the problem that Liljenquist’s bill set out to solve, not the problem that resulted from his vote.
- “As a State Senator, Dan Liljenquist introduced a bill that would have ended the practice of double-dipping for state workers–but then turned around and later voted to allow double-dipping to continue.” Upon review, this statement begins to cross over into the grey territory and causes me to question the integrity of the writer. Further, we have to rate this statement as MISLEADING.What really happened?
The original bill would have ended the practice completely. According to the Roche article that Freedom Path cites, Rep. Stephen Sandstrom asked that the bill be amended in the House to allow people who left their job for a year to return if they had not been replaced. Roche writes that
Liljenquist said the change accommodates retirees who find themselves in the position of having to go back to work but ends what he called the “sweetheart deal” that gives workers an incentive to retire early and come back.

However, the reform still saved money and ended double-dipping as it had existed before–and it had been proposed and sponsored by Dan Liljenquist. Further, the bill did not expand government waste, but actually cut it. The fiscal note tied to the bill–an analysis of the costs of the law–said that “over time there will be a net savings to the retirement system for individuals that work longer. Savings to the state may be as high as $10.5 million depending on retirement patterns.”
This, after a potential cost of $900 million over a decade. If my math serves me right, that’s a switch in the direction of savings.
In contrast, Dan Liljenquist was the original sponsor of the bill, which passed with almost unanimous Republican support and the Governor’s signature.
The Salt Lake Tribune’s summary of the Dan Liljenquist reform is as follows:
Sen. Dan Liljenquist’s package of bills would replace the current pension plan with a kind of 401(k) plan; eliminate so-called double dipping in which a retired public employee comes back to work and draws a retirement check and paycheck; and extend the retirement eligibility for peace officers. The changes are prospective and largely leave current employees unaffected. Liljenquist said the changes are needed because the economic crash walloped the current system, creating a $6.5 billion gap in the long-term funds and obligations.
- ”As a State Representative, Chris Herrod supported weakening a proposal to end double-dipping–instead opening the door to allow state workers to collect both their pensions and a state paycheck if they wait at least a year to return to work.”
My problems with this statement are multiple. First, the statement avoids the obvious–that the proposal to end double-dipping was Dan Liljenquist’s. To admit as much would have punched holes in the previous attack on Liljenquist. Second, state workers can’t just “return to work.” They must be rehired. Last, as before stated, only one Republican voted against the bill, the bill resulted in savings, and was attributed to the reasons why Utah was able to avoid disaster after the $6.5 billion shortfall that year.
For these reasons, this statement is MISLEADING.
CONCLUSION: “Two Scoops” Distorts the Truth and Lies to Voters
The “Two Scoops” mailer ends with this statement: “Utah Can’t Afford Big Spenders Like Dan Liljenquist & Chris Herrod.” This is, perhaps, the biggest lie of the brochure.
So, back to the beginning:
DO DAN LILJENQUIST AND CHRIS HERROD SUPPORT DOUBLE-DIPPING?
Clearly, the answer is “No, they opposed it.” Not only had double-dipping reform been proposed and supported by Liljenquist or Herrod, respectively, but the pension reform that passed resulted in savings, not further government waste, relative to what was done earlier.
In fact, the unions turned out in force to fight them on it.
Some 200 people jammed a committee room Wednesday and more spilled into overflow rooms to hear a Senate committee debate what are perhaps the most drastic changes in the history of Utah’s public employee retirement system.
If Liljenquist and Herrod were to do the same thing Hatch with Medicare Part D, the Hatch Campaign would go crazy (and perhaps they have…we’ll look at a mailer by Freedom Works attacking Hatch later). Instead, Freedom Path, Orrin Hatch supporting political action committee, has explicitly flipped Liljenquist and Herrod’s records upside down to exactly the opposite of what really happened.
That’s misleading to Utah voters, and that’s bad for Utah politics.
Ironic: By doing so, does Freedom Path realize that it has by association attacked every Republican member of the Utah State Legislature and Governor Herbert? Each Republican (with one exception) voted for it, and the Governor signed it.
TOMORROW (or the next day)…”Jobs not Made In the USA”















